Comments on: Includes are not functions http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/ It's a blog about the web, by Josh. Geddit? Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:23:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tony http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/comment-page-1/#comment-19072 Tony Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:35:17 +0000 http://joshduck.com/blog/?p=173#comment-19072 As David said, this is widespread in "commercial" products. It's frustrating when trying to extend functionality within one of these packages. But I guess it's just one of the pitfalls of an industry that seems to have few set-in-stone rules. As David said, this is widespread in “commercial” products. It’s frustrating when trying to extend functionality within one of these packages. But I guess it’s just one of the pitfalls of an industry that seems to have few set-in-stone rules.

]]> By: Josh http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/comment-page-1/#comment-11716 Josh Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:17:48 +0000 http://joshduck.com/blog/?p=173#comment-11716 @hyperlexic. Dependency injection is going above and beyond what I've discussed here. This post was a primer for PHP hackers who are relying on these kind of anti-patterns when they should be using more appropriate language features. In an ideal world the post would be unecessary, but from code I see out there in the wild there are lots of people who have no idea how to combine function and includes in a way that is maintainable and extendable. Dependancy injection also requires a strict object oriented programming style. PHP, more than any other language I've worked with, has a wide range of programming styles; from strict OO, mixed procedural and OO, purely procedural and even spaghetti code that runs top-to-bottom without a function declaration in sight. @hyperlexic. Dependency injection is going above and beyond what I’ve discussed here. This post was a primer for PHP hackers who are relying on these kind of anti-patterns when they should be using more appropriate language features. In an ideal world the post would be unecessary, but from code I see out there in the wild there are lots of people who have no idea how to combine function and includes in a way that is maintainable and extendable.

Dependancy injection also requires a strict object oriented programming style. PHP, more than any other language I’ve worked with, has a
wide range of programming styles; from strict OO, mixed procedural and OO, purely procedural and even spaghetti code that runs top-to-bottom without a function declaration in sight.

]]> By: hyperlexic http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/comment-page-1/#comment-11686 hyperlexic Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:11:04 +0000 http://joshduck.com/blog/?p=173#comment-11686 how does this differ from the 'good practice' of including class dependencies to instantiate new objects? or even in the popular MVC frameworks that function on the concept of 'including' libraries, helpers, models etc even if it's abstracted through some global 'loader' obhect? same thing. how does this differ from the ‘good practice’ of including class dependencies to instantiate new objects? or even in the popular MVC frameworks that function on the concept of ‘including’ libraries, helpers, models etc even if it’s abstracted through some global ‘loader’ obhect? same thing.

]]> By: chrelad http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/comment-page-1/#comment-11239 chrelad Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:39:42 +0000 http://joshduck.com/blog/?p=173#comment-11239 Very well said, I couldn't agree more :) Leads to mass confusion. Very well said, I couldn’t agree more :) Leads to mass confusion.

]]> By: David http://joshduck.com/blog/2010/07/28/includes-are-not-functions/comment-page-1/#comment-11171 David Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:49:21 +0000 http://joshduck.com/blog/?p=173#comment-11171 I see this kind of stuff all the time in "commercial" products. Thanks for posting about it. It made me smile. =) I see this kind of stuff all the time in “commercial” products. Thanks for posting about it. It made me smile. =)

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